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Looking at pictures from last night on the DÄOF forum makes me so envious. ;__;

*don'tbegreedydon'tbegreedydon'tbegreedy*

*sigh*

Today I sent a story to the Arthouse Tacheles in Berlin! They're organising an event with Italian artists and are looking for artists, musicians and writers. They're never gonna choose me, but I decided to give it a try anyway and sent a story I wrote a long time ago, but that was completely rewritten for the occasion. Keep your fingers crossed for me! >_<

And now: rant time! A few weeks ago I wrote about a super secret graphic commission I got. Well, since it's over I guess I can talk openly about it now. I'm collaborating with the Democratic Party for the local elections and they asked me to draw their logo. I accepted and asked them if they had already something in mind, like certain colours, certain symbols etc. They said I could do whatever I wanted. After a quick brainstorming with one of the guys who are in charge, we decided to do something using either white, green and red (the Italian flag colours and the colours of the national Democratic Party logo) or something with blue and green, our town's colours. I did a quick sketch when I got home that night. The next day, the guy calls me and says "Say, can you finish the logo tonight? We want to send it to the local newspaper." I panicked a little and told him I had only done a rough version of the white/green/red one, if he gave me more time I could do a few different versions so they could choose the one they liked best. He said not to worry and to just send him what I had. The next morning I get an email from another of the guys saying not to use white/green/red, but blue, green and orange instead. Orange? Whatever, that's your logo, not mine. I come up with a couple of versions at work (luckily there wasn't much to do that day) and send them over. He's not really convinced. I work on them some more at home and send him the new versions. He says maybe they'll wait and send the logo to the newspaper the following week, so I'll have more time to work on it.

And that was it. I asked him about it the next time I met him and he said they still hadn't made up their mind. Then a few days ago they sent me another email asking me if I could fix another logo, changing the name of the candidate and turning "President" into "Mayor". I did and sent him the finished pic. After a couple of days I wrote to him asking if the second logo was all right and if they had news about the first logo. He replied the second one was great. As for the first one, they decided to have it done by a professional graphic designer.

Now, the first thing I'd told them when they asked me to draw their logo was "Are you sure? I'm not a pro." They were sure. I also told them that if they didn't like it they just had to tell me, it wouldn't be a problem, I wouldn't get offended. But now I'm quite annoyed. I mean, you want to go and get a pro? Fine, just tell me. What if I had wasted nights working on it? I'm doing you a favour here.

Whatever. I'm going to the theatre tonight, that will definitely improve my mood.

Date: 2009-04-22 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] polarforscherin.livejournal.com
Pfff! Idiots!

Date: 2009-04-22 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angrylogic.livejournal.com
They said I could do whatever I wanted

When someone says that, it's a complete lie. It's why I gave up doing comics full time, because when someone says "Do what you want" and you do, they complain because it's "Not what we were looking for". You're always someone else's bitch in the professional illustration industry, unless you are in the top 3% of the talent and then people wank all over your sketches as though you've etched them with liquid gold. I've lost count of the amount of times I've poured myself into designing something and then the client goes "No, I want the eyes different" even though I asked them five times what kind of eyes they want, plus gave them a chart with designs on it to pick from >_______< It's soul destroying. Hell, I know someone who inks for Marvel and got the same treatment as you; the not telling you that they're going to use your work and then get someone else to do it - so it happens on all levels of the art world.

I have to laugh when people say "Do what you want" when I'm tattooing though. I'm already sick of them coming in and having NO IDEA what they want. I say "Japanese, mech, tribal, comic - what the hell do you want?!", then they stare at me with a blank expression and go "I dunno D:". Then I really do do what I want, and they're stuck with it XD Serves them right for being such idiots. Even after I've spent half an hour drawing it onto them, they look at in the mirror and I can see their eyes starting to roll in opposite directions. They're the kind of people who, if you draw them a star with a name above it go "That's fuckin' beeyootiful", while if you spent ten hours designing a full sleeve for them just shrug their shoulders and go "Yeah, it's okay...". It's not like I want them to piss themselves silly, but even saying "I like it" or "I like it, but can you change that bit?" would be nice.

There is no accounting for taste.

Date: 2009-04-23 08:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothikmaus.livejournal.com
I know it's always tricky when someone says "Do what you want", but at least tell me what colours I should or, in this case, should not use. I mean, I asked them if it was OK to use those colours and they said yes. Then the next day it was "Nooo, what have you done?!"

But the real problem was that I was talking about it with a guy, and he liked what I had done, but the decision had to be made by another guy. People have big communication problems... -__-

HAHA, people sometimes just want to get a tattoo because it's "trendy" and don't really care about it, as long as they have one. It took me 2 years to make up my mind before I got mine, I saw the design somewhere and thought "If I'll ever get a tattoo, that will be it." Then when I really decided to get one I looked at the design and thought "Do I still like it? Do I want to have it on my skin forever?" And when I was sure, I called the tattoo artist.

See, there's too much thinking involved, some people are just lazy and say: "Draw something pretty on me!"

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