Real life? What's this real life you're talking about?

[gothikmaus]

Elections are over. We don't have a clear majority and forming a government will be nearly impossible. Millions of people still voted for you-know-who after everything he's done. Still a few hours before we find out who the new local governor in my region (Lombardy) will be.

I'll just ignore everything and distract myself with this pretty picture:



Posted on Twitter by Michelle Borth (source)

Comments

[polarforscherin]

That really wasn't the result we hoped for. I hope a few people will notice that it's time to compromise and get the job done.

[gothikmaus]

I really don't know what to think anymore. If the left-wing party wants to avoid new elections, they'll have to form a coalition with Grillo's party and do some serious reforms. That's the only chance we have to change things.

[polarforscherin]

Is Grillo interested to be part of the real work or is his goal just to cause as much mayhem as possible? If he's interested it would be worth the try.

I don't know enough about the Italian system but here I'd be against new elections. I'm not a fan because in my opinion the voters' decided and now do the best you can with it. Stupidity or irresponsibility will always be an issue that you can't control. It's possible that new elections won't bring a different result and that would be a proper crisis then. ;)

[gothikmaus]

It's still not clear what Grillo wants to do. The Government needs to get a vote of confidence from the Parliament (it's similar to the German system) and today Grillo said his party won't give a vote of confidence to anyone. And that would be extremely stupid. His movement could be the most important party, they could force the Democratic Party, which "officially" won these elections, to make some serious and badly needed reforms, but they need to give them a vote of confidence first and allow them to form a Government. Then they can threaten them to remove the confidence if they don't behave (that's what I would do), but if they refuse to collaborate, we only have 3 alternatives:

1) another "technical government"
2) new elections in a few months
3) a big coalition between the Democratic Party and Berlusconi's party

The third option would make me sick, but I think that's what Grillo wants, so he would be able to say "See? I told you! They're all the same!" Too bad it would be his fault if that happens. And the people who voted for him may be angry and fed up, but they're not stupid. At least, I hope so...

[polarforscherin]

A party which doesn't have to offer anything but opposition shouldn't be in the parliament. I wonder what their delegates think what their job is? Sit there, complain about the others, and say no to everything? That's not politics, that's childish.

If Grillo lets it come to the third option, he'll prove that he's not worth voting for. I'd always welcome a new party because I think the established ones need to notice that they are replaceable if they don't do a proper job but a party that's not interested in anything beyond being against everything is just a waste of time.

I understand why people feel attracted to a party like Grillo's but it's not very difficult to figure out which effects a vote for him would have. And if he's not able to show that he can be an efficient politician he'll notive how fast protest voters will be gone again.

That really is an awful result. It's probable that we'll end up with a big coalition in autumn too but that wouldn't be too bad here. To be honest I don't feel like there's THE party out there for me. For years it was never a question how I would vote, my first election was the "Let's vote Kohl out of Kanzleramt." election which united many young people then. But at the moment finding the party that'll get my vote is harder every time.

I hope there'll be a solution for Italy and a solution for Europe soon. I can't stand all of these daily arguments about how to solve the financial crisis and what to do with Euro and EU anymore. It's tiring. I don't like unsolved issues in my life and I don't like to see them on the news every day. I'd like to lock politicians from all EU countries up like the cardinals during the conclave and not let them out until everything's sorted.